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we're also watching events in wisconsin where jurors in the kyle rittenhouse trial are about to begin their fourth day of deliberations. meanwhile, the fda has just approved booster shots of the moderna and pfizer vaccines for all adults. as austria goes back into lockdown and makes vaccinations mandatory. oklahoma's governor commutes the sentence of a death row inmate just hours before he was scheduled to be executed. and the wife of mexico's most wanted drug lord arrested as the u.s. offers a huge reward for his capture. and we begin with breaking news from capitol hill, where any moment now, house speaker nancy pelosi will hold a news conference to celebrate the passage of the build back better act. there you see, the podium is ready to receive her. moments ago, the house approved its version of a nearly $2 trillion bill to reshape the
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social safety net and fight climate change. the bill now heads to the senate. with me now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent, leigh ann caldwell and peter baker, "new york times" chief white house correspondent. also an msnbc political analyst. league ann, this is a crowning moment for the house speaker. how did she manage to pull it off? >> reporter: it is a crowning moment for the speaker. this could be the speaker's last term. and this is part of her legacy building. things in this bill were things that she has been wanting to pass and democrats have been wanting to pass, sometimes for decades in this bill. there's free universal preschool, there's child care assistance, there's home-based care for seniors, there's an extension of the child tax credit. there's half a trillion dollars for climate change provisions. house speaker pelosi was able to pull it off. well, there's various reasons and ways. it wasn't just her. there was a lot of deliberation
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and negotiation among her rank and file members, including the progressives and the moderates who had to work together and sometimes in tandem and in opposition of each other, in order to make this bill palatable for all democrats. remember, the democrats only have a three-member majority -- or margin, i should say, in the house. they can only lose three democrats for anything to pass. so this party had to stay united. this bill started at $3.5 trillion. it's now $1.75 trillion. but it was changed, it was altered, it was shrunk, but it got to a place that fulfilled these democratic priorities while also being able appease all democratic members who felt comfortable with voting for it. out of all of the members, only one democrat voted against it. that's jared golden of maine. and the rest, the ones who have been expressing concerns for months voted for it. so this is a big day, not just
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for speaker pelosi and her legacy, but it's a big day for house democrats who overcame many months of trying to pass this bill and they finally did it today, where it now heads to the senate and has a rough road still ahead, jose. >> speaker pelosi rarely loses and this one is such a massive victory. peter, with this bill, house democrats have approved nearly $5 trillion in new spending since the beginning of the year, which is an unimaginable amount of money. how do president biden and democrats sell all of this new spending when people are seeing rising prices everywhere? >> well, they had to make it about something other than spending. in other words, what you're going to hear and you heard with kevin mccarthy's marathon speech is, you know, framing it in terms of unaffordable spending at a time when we're seeing inflation and seeing economic concern. what the biden administration needs to do, and what speaker pelosi needs to do is to, you know, sell us to the country is
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talk about what's in the bill. what kind of program leigh ann has said would be funded as a result of this. because those have polled pretty well. in fact, even this larger bill, not has popular as the hard infrastructure bill that's already passed, even this bill has majority support. i think 58% was the number i saw most recently. but you have to talk about what's in it and not just the number. the debate has been so much about how much money is spent rather than what it's being spent on. >> so leigh ann, will things look different when the bill reaches the senate? certainly as it goes through the senate. >> it will. there are going to be changes to this legislation. there's things that we know about that some senators don't like, including senator joe manchin. he does not like the four weeks of paid family leave in this bill, something he's been opposed to. that could very well be stripped from this legislation. another provision is immigration. there are -- there's legal status created for millions of
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undocumented immigrants in this house version of the bill. it might not comply with the senate rules of how they're passing this legislation. so it might need to be stripped from this bill in the senate. there's also the state and local tax deduction, the $10,000 cap. that was altered in the house. some senators don't like it. they want it to be revenue neutral. they think it impacts and benefits the wealthy too much. so those are just three provisions that could change in the senate. there's going to be a very hefty debate in the senate. and it will likely, if it passes the senate, likely have to come back to the house for them to agree to the senate version. >> the parliamentarian in the senate has already said twice that in the immigration language, as it was stated at the time, was not acceptable to be included in this bill. but peter, as all of this is going on on capitol hill, the president is at walter reed national military medical center for his annual physical, which comes one day before his 79th birthday. we understand that he will be
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put under anesthesia for a colonoscopy. what more can you tell us about this? >> well, of course, president biden is the oldest president we've ever seen and his health, obviously, has been something of an issue. even recent polling shows that many americans, a majority of americans, are concerned that he's not, in fact, physically well enough to be president. and that's something that he wants to prove opposite today. so they're going to have this physical. i think the intent, obviously, is to show that this is a president, even though he's about to turn 79, is still vigorous and still capable of handling this job. but it's a tough, you know, sensitive situation. similar to what we had in the later years of president reagan, when he was -- when he was aging. and i think you see republicans trying to take advantage of that. democrats are concerned. and they want this president to be able to show that he's still a vibrant and, you know, capable leader at a time when the country does feel like there are many, many issues on the table that need to be addressed. >> and leigh ann, i want to
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bring you back to the build back better bill. because immigration, as you were saying, is key -- it's a key element of that bill in the house. the senate may strip that. including the language nah bill, on immigration, which has not changed in the final hours, right? just yesterday. but how important is the immigration part of the build back better bill for the house. >> reporter: so, jose, the language has not changed. let me just explain what the language does for a quick second. it provides a new legal status. not citizenship, but a legal status for millions of undocumented immigrants who were here before 2011. as far as how important it is for the house, it was actually very contentious. there's a lot of members, progressive members, leaders of the hispanic american caucus, the hispanic island pacificer caucus who demanded that it be
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in there. but there were some moderates who had a lot of problems with it. they supported the policy, but they did not want to vote something that very well would not make it into the final version of the bill to be signed by the president into law. they thought that that was a politically risky vote to take, that they would get hammered on in their election, if it did not become law. and so, it was contentious and it was almost stripped out of it, but speaker pelosi, she listened to the chc, she listened to the progressives, and kept it in there, regardless of what happens in the senate. there's one member, alyssa slotkin of michigan, she put out a statement, that was one of the reasons that she was concerned about voting for this bill, because of the immigration provision. because it could not make it in the final version. but ultimately, it was in there and we'll see what happens in the senate. and i'm told i have some new reporting, i'm told by a source, that senate democrats are still figuring out -- they're going to talk to the senate
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parliamentarian about this process very, very soon. hoping to get a better understanding of the current language of the bill, if it's going to be able to be kept in the senate version, jose. >> and speaking with senator menendez, senator padilla, and others who are very determined to include that in the senate's version, whatever it ends up being, the question, peter, is, i don't see necessarily a plan "b" for senators and house members who want to see this immigration reform in this package. it seems if it's not, if it's stripped out once again, there doesn't seem like a lot of plan "b" planning, peter. >> one reason you put in a bill like this is an order to get it through rather than a stand-alone piece of legislation, so it doesn't become a debate just about immigration. you get a lot of people in theory swallowing something that they might not otherwise support. because they support the rest of the bill. but, you know, the senate democrats have an option, if they want it, if i understand
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this correctly, leigh ann knows this better than i do, but they can overrule the parliamentarian on a majority vote. it may not be that they would be willing to do that. it sets a bad precedent, because if you start overruling the parliamentarian on this, you can overrule the parliamentarian on so many other things, you don't want to allow your opponents to be able to do the same thing down the road. my guess is, they feel like that's a road they might not want to cross. but they do have that option. you have to get a majority of your caucus, all of your caucus to have a majority in the senate. >> peter and leigh ann, thank you so much. here's house speaker pelosi. >> today we have the honor of participating in passing legislation for the people to build back better. as i always say, with women, for the children. the -- this occasion would not have been possible without the vision of our great president, president biden. he has said that the infrastructure bill was very, very important and we agree. but it was not the sum total of
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his vision for how we do build and building back better meant building back with many more people participating, with environmental justice, with home health care, the list goes on and on. one thing i'm particularly excited about is family medical leave and that is a fight that we have always been engaged in for a long time. we were here when family medical leave passed, unfunded. and now we have it funded. so for these and other reasons, as mr. hoyer said at the beginning of his remarks, we'll be telling our children and grandchildren that we were here this day. you were reminding me of st. crispin's day speech when you were saying that. and mr. -- our distinguished whip, mr. clyburn, talked about the three legs of the stools, the rescue passage, the biff, and this bill being the infrastructure of our future. and our distinguished chair of
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the ways and means committee who held down the fort for such a long time, for a long time, but including last night, mr. neil, quoting daniel repster and our responsibility to act so for us, it's not just about legislation, but it's about values, and the values that this legislation represents for the people. with that, i'm pleased to yield to the distinguished majority leader, mr. hoyer. >> first of all, congratulations, madam speaker. this is an historic piece of legislation, you were its leader. with, as you say, the vision of the president of the united states. this bill will speak for itself to millions and millions and millions and millions of americans whose lives will be made more secure, more richer in terms of the quality of life, whose educational opportunities
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will be greater, and whose job opportunities will be greatly enhanced. and america's competitiveness in the world will be heightened for the 21st century. as the president said, this is a transformational piece of legislation. it's a big win for the people. for the average working men and women of america, for those who struggle every day and hope that someone is on their side. someone is listening to their pain and their struggle and their challenge. this bill is an answer. this bill will make a difference in their lives. that's why this bill is so historic. not for next year, the year after, but for decades to come. it will make america a better land. a land of greater opportunity.
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a land of the free, a land of the brave. i now yield to my distinguished colleague from south carolina who counted the votes precisely, precisely. thank you, jim clyburn from south carolina. >> thank you very much, mr. leader, madam speaker. and this great leadership team. let me thank all of you for a great job well done. last night, when i spoke on this bill, i called it the third leg of a three-legged stool needed to balance. not just the stool, but balance people's lives. what are we doing for the people that we serve? what are we doing for their families? and what are we doing for the communities that they live in? so when you look at the rescue
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act, and you look at the infrastructure bill and this one, i think you can see that we have now proposed comprehensive approaches from the federal government to rescue these lives, to save these communities, and do what needs to be done for the future. i also talk last night about the fact that covid-19 exposed some significant faults in our system that needed to be addressed. faults in our health care system that need to be addressed. how do you get telehealth medicine to the rural areas all over the state. the health care system in 12 states did not expand medicaid.
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we decided that people living in those states are a part of this great nation, as well. and we address their plight if this legislation. i always talk about this being a great country. but the fact that we have not allowed this greatness to be accessible and affordable for all of our citizens, these three pieces of legislation accomplish that in a big way. and with that, i would like to yield to our assistant speaker, miss katherine clark. >> thank you, mr. clyburn. what an incredible morning, what an incredible vote. what an incredible time for the american people to be seen and heard. as we head into thanksgiving, i am so grateful for the leadership that is standing here with me, especially mr. clyburn,
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steny hoyer, and of course our historic and iconic speaker. her vision with president biden, of focusing and so building on conversations with the american people, putting children and women first to make sure that we breathe life into those ideals that we talk about. slisht and justice for all. and with this bill, we are saying to the american people, we see you. we understand those issues around your kitchen table and we are going to send help to you. whether it's through expanded child care, universal pre-k, that we haven't been able to pass since the nixon administration, saying that we are going to build a million new affordable housing units. we are going to be the custodians of this planet. and while we clean the water and air, we are also going to create
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millions of good jobs. this is the promise of the build back better agenda. and with this momentous step, we say to the american people, we are meeting your historic challenge with historic progress. i am so grateful to this caucus and to president biden for making this possible. >> let me just say that -- you've heard me say it again and again. all of this would not be possible without the great work of our committees, members of the committee, and staffs of the committee, and tour distinguished chairs. three of them are with us in terms of the substance of the legislation, mr. pallone and chairman -- i should say, chairman, chairman, chairman, of education and labor. but the person who facilitated this for us again and again was the chairman of the rules
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committee, mr. mcgovern. thank you, mr. mcgovern for bringing us to the floor again and again, and yesterday, in record time, however -- good thing. and that i'm honored to be here also with our leadership. this is legislation that creates millions of good-paying jobs, gives tax cuts to the middle class, lowers health care and child care costs for the middle class, and is paid for 100%. and again, we're very excited about what it does for the children, for the families. and if you're a mom, a dad, a family caregiver, this bill is for you. if you care about the planet and how we pass it on to our children, this bill is for you. whether it's about right now, their health and the health and well-being, whether it's good-paying jobs to their family and green technology, good union
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jobs. if it's the security of our country by preventing and hoping to mitigate for conflicts that come from conflict over resources and habitat, it's a national security issue, and of course, a moral issue to pass the planet on in good shape to future generations. so with that, i'm honored to be with them and with members of our leadership, mr. agular. i know the distinguished chairman, mr. jeffreys, had a plane. thank you, mr. agular. how many hours were you in the chair last night? too many. but very well, excuse me, and then distinguished chair, the dccc, mr. maloney and here we are. so i know our distinguished chairs will want to take all of your difficult policy questions, but why don't we begin. yes, ma'am? >> madam speaker, i want to ask you, after this week, obviously, this is a momentous moment for the democratic party, but you
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also had to deal with a censure vote this week, you had to deal last night with minority leader kevin mccarthy's eight and a half hour speech. what do you feel like the tone and tenor of the house of representatives is at this moment and what can be done to try to bridge some of those gaps in trust? >> well, let me just say that i don't specifically agree with your first sentence, saying that it's a great day for the democratic party. maybe it is. but it's a great day for our country. and that's why we are so thrilled about it. it's for the people. it should be bipartisan. it should be bipartisan. the fact that they would rather give tax cuts to the richest people at 83% of the benefits going to the top 1% without any pay-for is a stark difference between what we do in this legislation. and i didn't even pay attention to the speech. i don't even listen to most of the speeches on the other side, because they're not fraught with meaning or fact. so i don't have my computer get
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bothered with that. but the fact is is that the censure, they could improve their behavior. they don't have to threaten to kill members of congress or threaten the life of the president of the united states. so you say, what can we do to bring people together? well, we can encourage everyone to honor rule 23 of the house, which is that you must bring credit to the house of representatives. but for that, i will yield to my colleagues for any answer that is may have on the subject of your question. mr. neil? >> i never thought quoting daniel webster would have received such a reaction from the republican leadership last night. that seemed to be the theme that he repeatedly came back to. but if i could just emphasize, just quickly, paid family leave, middle class tax cuts, the child credit, aca premium credits. we lower health care costs, negotiated drug prices, and we
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expand aca. and with that, signing the president -- the president's signature on the infrastructure bill, this is quite a week for the american family. >> mada speaker? >> how do you respond to republicans today that say that democrats lied to the american public when they said, this plan costs zero dollars, when the cbo says it at least adds $160 billion to the debt. >> do you want to -- >> let's just not present what the republicans say as any fact that you're predicating a question on. i mean, understand what's happening around here, okay? whether -- you know these figures. >> so they hung their hats on the issue of the irs. we believe, according to the irs commissioner, a republican appointed by the former president, who said, by the way, that there could be up to $1 trillion that's hanging out there. he said that. we didn't say it.
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we subscribed to the 400 billion mark, which not only that commissioner, but the former commissioners have also subscribed to, as well. an investment in software for better modeling at the irs. an investment in allowing auditors to upgrade their own skills. your chances of being audited over the eitc are now greater than your chances of being audited if you're paid in dividends and capital gains. and the last point, this is really important. if you are a working american, because of withholding taxes, we have north of 95% compliance in america. we should be proud of that. that means that people who get paid week to week, with wages, they pay their share. the problem is in the upper echelons of the american economy. now, republican irs commissioners and democratic irs commissioners, they all agree on that principle. >> i understand that. and to your -- >> in the legislation, they charge for the investment in
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training the irs and hiring more people, but they don't weigh in the upside of what you get from that, in terms of increased collection of taxes. and also, it's a deterrent, because people will know that now there are more people looking at the tax returns at that high end, with their high-priced lawyers. as the chairman said very clearly, you're more likely to be investigated if you're about an eitc, but earned income tax credit. these are low-income people in our country, they don't have high-priced lawyers of phalanxes of them and they get more audit than the wealthiest. next question? >> madam speaker, this is a huge vote today, but it won't be the last vote. are you confident that you can keep the momentum going to actually get the final version of this bill to the president's desk? >> yes, but i'm going to yield to some of my colleagues on that and i'll close with that, as well. because this is -- it is 90-some percent of the bill was written
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together. house, senate, white house. there was some differences at the end, and we'll deal with those as we go forward. what will happen is the -- we have different committee systems in the house than they do in the senate, so this bill will now be reshaped to their committees. and at that point, we'll see what -- where we need to, shall we say, reconcile our differences. but at the end of the day, we will have a great bill. mr. pallone, would you like to speak to that? >> yeah, i mean, look. the fact of the matter is, that over the last few months and particularly in the last few weeks, we have been working with the senators, not only manchin and sinema, but also with the chairs of the committees in the senate. so, you know, i'll use two examples. one is on the drug pricing, right? you know, we've been basically drilling down and getting sinema's input, getting schumer's input. and so i do believe that the
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drug pricing provision that you see is it. i mean, i don't know. i guess there could be some changes, but i don't think they're significant. and the fact that we have negotiated pricings and we have savings, as the cbo showed, means that this is, this is a provision that saves money, and at the same time, does a lot in terms of affordability for seniors and others. the same would be true for methane, right? nancy and i and the group went to glasgow for the climate conference and they were touting international action on methane. so we have this very important provision with regard to methane emissions, that was worked on with the senators and was also worked on with house members over the last few weeks. so i believe, you know, just using those two as an example, that this is pretty much it. i mean, there may be some additional changes, but, you know, in terms of paying for it and in terms of the actual
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substantiative authorizing language, i think we're pretty solid at this point. and there's no reason why this bill couldn't, you know, pretty much come back from the senate with some minor changes. nothing major, in my opinion. >> thank you. on the education and labor parts, we have pretty much agreed with our counterparts in the senate. child care, which will allow parents to go to work, if you're in a low-to-moderate income situation, you really can't afford child care, so you can't afford to go to work. pre-k, which is so valuable for future education. universal, the job training, the fact is that we don't have enough skilled workforce out there to do the work that's already there. the president signed a major infrastructure bill. and so if we expect that work to get done, we'll have to have an upgraded workforce, major
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investments in workforce development and higher education. and we worked with the agriculture committee, as the speaker has indicated, they don't necessarily line up school lunches, school meals are part of the agriculture committee in the senate, in labor, in the house. and we've agreed to significantly increase access to school meals. so there's a lot in the bill and it's pretty much agreed to on the labor side. >> madam speaker? madam speaker? >> yes. >> i wanted to ask, first of all, you used to hold the record for the longest speech, how do you feel about that being broken and do you plan to take that back? >> i barely noticed, but that's not what we're here to talk about. this is about serious business here. >> let me ask a serious question. >> you have another one? >> i do have another one. there will be changes, whether they're small or large, you've
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got a narrow majority. are you confident that the biggest hurdles on this big are in your rearview mirror? >> yes. let me just say, and i want to hear from some of our other colleagues. the -- this bill is -- this bill is monumental. it's historic, it's transformative, it's bigger than anything we've ever done. we had so much agreement within the bill. should there be some disagreement and by and large, we had the bill scrubbed, so we are technically eligible for the 51 vote in the senate. that's what that was about. and whatever comes out of the senate, we'll be working together with them so that we have agreement when it comes back to the house. i have absolutely no doubt. the biggest hurdle was to get the bill there. the biggest challenge was to meet the vision of president
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biden. does anybody have anything they want to say on -- i don't know if you want to talk about being in the chair all night or whatever. one more question. yes, ma'am. >> this bill, many of your colleagues in the democratic party are counting on it to run on it, given its contents, as far as you are concerned, upon passage, will you talk about whether or not you're going to run for re-election upon -- >> i'm telling you, this is an important meeting about serious subjects. if anybody as a serious question, i'll be happy to take one more. i'm not here to talk about me. i'm here to talk about building back better, for women, for the people for the children. yes, ma'am? >> madam speaker, but some of the provisions such as immigration reform and paid leave are possibly going to drop out in the senate bill. do you have plans to address -- >> we have made our statement
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today. we have stood the test of the parliamentarian's privilege scrub. we are celebrating that, we are sending it over to the senate and we are ready to debate for our bill and have a big success. my colleagues, does anyone want to say about any of these things again? >> i'll just say this. you know, i am -- there's nothing unusual about the house work its will and the senate working its -- that's why we have conferences. and i think that just because we have done something -- let's just take for instance the salt tax. there are several senators that said they've got a version that they feel good about. i have not seen that version, but we think we've got a good
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bill. they think make it better. and let them go at it. and they may make it better. and we will accept better. so i don't think that's anything for us to be all that concerned about. we've done what we think we can do. the senate will do what it thinks it can do. and we'll come together on behalf of the american people and try to have a coordinated approach, as we go off into the future. i don't fear -- >> yeah, it's called -- it's called the legislative process. and the house does not just write any bill that they think the senate will pass. we find our common ground, but we have our own, shall we say, personality about things. and then we will reconcile whatever changes are need, as we ever strive to build back better. but it's really a cause for celebration for us now. and we're not getting bogged
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down in long speeches or people's career or what happens if this doesn't happen. what we're talking about is what has happened. and it's a glorious, glorious historic, transformative piece of legislation for the people, for women, for the children. thank you all very much. and by the way. happy thanksgiving to all of you. as our distinguished assistant speaker has said, we have a lot to be thankful for this thanksgiving. and i want to express hi gratitude for president joe biden. thank you all very much. >> so there you saw, speaker pelosi and the democratic leadership in the house speaking to us this morning from capitol hill. gosh, you know, i wish they would have asked, because there's so much in this bill of importance, including $100 billion, a deal with immigration. you know, expanding the child tax credits for all people in the united states, including immigrants.
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some $7 million people could receive some legalization through this bill. people who have been here since 2011. these are important things. 7 million people could benefit from this. i wish they would have brought it up. but let's talk about that more with california democratic congressman, jimmy gomez. he sits on the ways and means committee and a member of the congressional hispanic caucus. congressman, it's a pleasure to see you this morning. talk to me about your reaction. how historic is this vote today? >> this is as big as it gets. people understand that. that's why there was a celebration of finally getting this part of the build back better agenda done. and it's going to life changing for people, when it comes to protecting immigrants from deportation by giving them work permits, investing in our families when it comes to expanding the child tax credit. largest investment in housing since the new deal. and we also have the largest investment in combatting climate
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change since, ever, in the history of this country. so it is an historic day. we just need to get it over the finish line, get it through the senate, and back to the house. >> so when we talk about $1.75 trillion, how do you help define for us what that would or could mean for people. >> well, one of the things is that i grew up and i didn't have a chance to go to preschool. why? because my school district and my state didn't allow it. so now kids from my background are going to be able to go to preschool and get a good start on their education. right now, the child tax credit as cut poverty in this country from anywhere from 50 to 60%, depending on the community. that is life changing. that starts kids and families in a better position. it helps them make ends meet. and then when you're talking about climate change, which is a threat that everybody is talking about and trying to adapt from florida to california, that is something that we're talking about. it's a big deal and it's going to put people back to work and make sure that we're competitive
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in the 21st century. >> and it's such a big bill and there are so many elements to it that i guess that we could go for hours. it pinpointing and looking at the difference ones. but i want to focus on the issue of immigration. i know it's a close issue to your mart. we're talking about the possibility, right, temporary protection for millions of undocumented immigrants. some that have arrived since before 2011. we're talking about 7 million people. now, this is ant pathway to citizenship. that was not included in this bill. but talk to me about the impact of that, and then also, of course, what's going to happen when it gets to the senate. >> first, pathway to citizenship is always our north star, because we want to have people feel like they do have a long-term future in this country. but at the same time, this could protect parents and family members who are -- who could be in mixed status families.
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that if they get caught or deported, that their family is ripped apart and the kids or their siblings have to fend for themselves. this is going to allow people to continue to boric. to go to work every single day without that fear. make a good living, a hard living, and support their family. and i think that's what america is about. it's about, if you work hard, you're going to get by and get, hopefully, your family is going to do better. and that's what my family has done and what countless families across the country. so this is a big deal. it's not perfect, and i know we have challenges in the senate. but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. >> and congressman, i think of the 200,000 plus el salvadorans who have been in this country, many for decades, that have until recently been a part of tps in our communities. what about all of the millions of people that are here that have been vetted, that have contributed and continue to contribute. i'm thinking of the haitian community in the united states,
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that does and gives so much to this country. what about those people? >> you're absolutely correct. that's one of the reasons why the congressional hispanic caucus wanted a comprehensive immigration reform. why we wanted to give a path to normalize their status, so that they could become citizens in the long-term. because they have contributed. they are part of our country. they're not going anywhere. they have kids that are full-blooded american citizens. so we want to make sure that they have that path, as well. we're going to keep pushing on the senate. i know that the senate path is hard. but at least we cleared what we have in our bill, cleared the bird path, cleared the parliamentarian privilege scrub. so we think we're in a good position. but you know what, progress is cumulative. you get one victory, build off of that and build off of that. and that's what we're going to try to do not only in the coming months, but the coming years. >> just wondering, just on a personal note. you know web often think of the american dream.
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you know, what is it for you, congressman, that the american dream is, when i see about how the road you have taken to get to where you are today. >> the american dream to me is the idea, and doesn't matter where you're from, doesn't matter the color of your skin or the god you worship, that if you work hard, you're going to succeed. my parents are immigrants from mexico. they didn't have more than a third grade education. i was born here. i was fortune that the randomness of my birth took place here in this country and that allow med to have opportunities that other people didn't. i went to a community college, went to ucla, and ended up going to get my masters at harvard university. in what other country can you do that the son of a farm worker can end up in congress? and that's what we want. we want to see more stories like that. there is a lot of them, but we want more. because that's what america is about. is that you're not limited by the -- by who your parents are and you're not limited by the circumstances that you're born
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into. >> congressman jimmy gomez, representative of los angeles, thank you for being with me this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you so much. still ahead, the jury in the kyle rittenhouse homicide trial began their fourth day of deliberations. we'll take you to the courthouse. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc se u're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnb you money, but then you have to deal with family. (aunt 1) chloe... (aunt 2) still single, dear? (chloe) so i got visible. team up with friends and get unlimited data for as low as $25 a month. no family needed. (dad vo) is the turkey done yet?! (mom vo) here's your turkey! (chloe) turkey's done. [fire alarm blares] (grandpa) answer the phone. (chloe) that's the fire alarm, grandpa. (vo) visible. unlimited data, powered by verizon. switch and get up to $200. instantly clear everyday congestion with vicks sinex saline. for fast drug free relief vicks sinex. instantly clear everyday congestion. and try vicks sinex children's saline. safe and gentle relief for children's noses. ♪
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and just a few minutes ago, they arrived here for their fourth day of deliberations. late yesterday, before they went home for the night, one of the jurors asked a judge if she could take jury instructions home with her. the judge granted that request. so we really have no indication at this point, jose, you know, whether the juries might be any closer to a decision. whether perhaps we could be heading towards a hung jury at this point. we just don't know. but again, the fourth day of deliberations underway here, jose. >> and juries tend to deliver verdicts on friday, especially if there's a looming holiday. they seem deep in deliberations, asking no questions and requesting no additional evidence yesterday. does this tell us anything? >> well, primarily, it tells us that they're doing their job. i have to say that especially with the holiday looming, you don't want juries to make a decision about their home lives when you know that they're holding the lives of other people in their hands. and that is something that we should all recognize and be
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grateful for. you know, they asked for the video evidence. remember that they have five counts and also some lesser-included charges. there's a lot of evidence and information for them to go through. and i think gabe is absolutely right. we don't know what it tells us is happening, except that, if i'm in the defense, i think, all right, maybe i'm hoping for that mistrial. and if i'm in the prosecution, i'm thinking, i hope i don't get a hung jury. but in any event, it does mean that they're taking it very seriously, they're going through all the evidence, and i'm also gratified when they want to read the jury instructions, because that is the rules of the road for them. >> maya wiley and gabe ambiguity gutierrez, thank you so much for being with us. the fda just approved covid booster shots for the pfizer and moderna vaccines for all adults six months after their second shot. joining me now, dr. vin gupta, a
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pulmonologist and msnbc contributor. doctor, always great to see you. how much of a game changer is this fda decision to approve both of these boosters for adults? >> good morning, jose. great to see you. ultimately, this was a decision that they had to make, because over 20 jurisdictions, states, localities across the country have already been doing this. and you can't, as a physician, okay or greenlight a booster for somebody who's not eligible, according to guidelines. that's actually illegal. they needed to do this, because the momentum was picking up here. also, this streamlines communication, of course, and there is a feeling here that we can't actually get back these doses and get them to other parts of the world that need it, that they would otherwise go to waste. so for those reasons, that's why this decision is being made. scientifically, i would say that the greatest need for boosters is those who are high risk. however we choose to define it, and that remains true to this day. >> dr. fauci warned that hospitalizations are surging among the vaccinated nationwide.
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so my question to you, is the reality of that is that vaccines only last six months? >> no, not at all. i will say this. as an icu physician, i'm on shift in the coming hours here, i am not seeing an epidemic of younger, otherwise healthy individuals coming into my icu or icus across the country. so we need to be clear to the american people that the people that dr. fauci is referencing, dr. walensky, were those that were otherwise older, 65 years of age and older, who got two shots, who have yet to be boosted, they were vulnerable, hay got a serious vaccine breakthrough infection. they ended up in the intensive care unit, not individuals who are deemed otherwise lower risk, because they're younger or don't have a serious condition like cancer. so for that group of individuals, the general population, so to speak, two doses still appears to be very effective at keeping people out of the hospital. so it's important to keep in mind that in mind. >> i'm glad you kind of cleared that up, because the first
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question i had was like, wait, you know what does dr. fauci mean by this? meanwhile, in michigan, where cases are on the rise, some counties are reporting that a fourth of their infections are in children. talk about the urgency of getting vaccinated -- vaccinate. are young people just as susceptible to long covid? >> well, certainly long covid. this sort of mysterious longer term chronic form of the illness that we don't know a lot about still can impact younger people including children. that's what we're learning. what i'll say to all the parents out there. between august 1st and september 15th of this year, there were 60,000 pediatric hospitalizations because the delta variant. in a typically bad few season, that spans four months, five months. maybe you'll see 20,000 pediatric hospitalizations. that should give people a sense of the gravity of the threat that covid poses to children
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that a lot of children are still ending up in the hospital. many more than those who end up in the hospital due to a bad flu season. that's the reason to get the vax. that's what we're seeing in michigan. that's why it's important to get kids vaccinated as soon as they're eligible. >> after today's news, what's your message? >> you know, ultimately that as we're congress grating for the holidays, as austria, germany, other parts of the world are ramping up in terms of a worsening outbreak, we're expecting at the university of washington 10,000 weekly deaths well into the winter. i'd say go ahead and get the booster as you're eligible. because it's going to benefit you. there's no harm to it. it's going to benefit high risk people vastly more than those that are lower risk. there's no reason not to get it. >> doctor, thank you very much for being with me this morning. well, let's go out to las vegas. last night the protest anthem won two latin grammys.
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best song and best urban song. what an extraordinary night. >>. [ speaking spanish ] >> the song translates to homeland and life. it's become a rallying cry for protesters, everybody in cuba who has been demanding freedom. one of the people behind the
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song is in prison for singing that song. it's the first time an artist has won a grammy while under arrest for singing. a song. coming up, mexico arrested the wife of a notorious drug lord. we'll talk to the head of dea operations about how important this arrest is. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. i. for starters, your mom doesn't have a restaurant. if she did, it would be impossible to get in. she'd become famous overnight. she'd get talked into franchising everything. and at that point, they wouldn't really taste like your mom's short ribs. no one can deliver your mom's homemade short ribs. that's why instacart helps deliver the ingredients. like pulsing, electric shocks, sharp, stabbing pains, or an intense burning sensation.
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drug lord el chapo to four years behind bars. she pleaded guilty in june to three counts including drug trafficking and money launders in her dealings with a drug cartel. this week mexico arrested the wife of el mencho who was on the run. she's suspecting of running the cartel's finances. the dea offering a $10 million reward for offering in the help of the capture of her husband. mike is with us. how big of an arrest is this? >> this is a very big arrest, jose, combined with other arrests, because keep in mind that el mencho's son in behind
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bars in the united states pending sentencing, and his daughter has been sentenced recently to 30 months in prison. the wife of el mencho is the financial brains behind their cartel which as you know is one of the most vie leapt cartels -- violent cartels that currently exists in mexico. rosa linda was laundering all the money for the cartel. we estimate that between 2015 and 2016 she used about 70 businesses, we're talking about construction, real estate, restaurants, hotels, clothing stores, and laundered $50 million. so she is an integral part of the cartel, and she is like emma
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cornell was to el chapo. the main confidant. >> and they're all in the family business. and this one clearly not the nicest of people. half are in jail. the others are being sought for. talk to me about violence. it seems as though a lot of times when i'm thinking of other ones being caught, that all the sudden you see an increase in the violence if that's possible. i mean, there have been nearly 100,000 murders in mexico connected to gangs just in the three years of this current presidency. what's going to happen now? >> i'm going to assume that el mencho is going to retaliate. three hours after rosalina was arrested, they captured to
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members of mexico's marines where the wife was captured. right now they don't know where they're at. i would assume knowing elmencho's propensity for violence, they're probably dead. this is going to escalate the violence in mexico because they're going to retaliate against mexico authority forces. and at the time the other supersize cartel can look at this as a sign of weakness on the new generation cartel, and maybe press or attack on the rival cartel. >> these are organizations bringing fentanyl and so many drugs into the united states. thank you for being with me this morning. that wraps up the hour with me at "jose diaz-balart reports."
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follow the show online@jdballart on nbc. craig melvin picks up with more news right now. a good friday morning to you. craig melvin here. today is the day house democrats have been waiting for for months. >> the build back better bill is passed. >> there it is. the house finally passing the long-debated build back better bill by a final vote of 220 to 213. cheers breaking out on the democratic side of the house floor when they crossed the magic number of 2018. just one democrat voted no. it is a critical step. a critical step in passing the bill that includes billions of dollars for clean energy, free pre-k, an

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